Wednesday, October 04, 2017

White Flight Goes National

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Catalan Vote Inspires Brazil’s Southern Separatist Movement
Inspired by the separatist vote in Catalonia, secessionists in three wealthy southern Brazilian states are redoubling their efforts to break away from the crisis-battered nation.

Residents of Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina and Parana states are being called to vote in an informal plebiscite on Oct. 7 on whether they want independence. Organizers are also urging residents of the three states to sign a legislative proposal for each of their regional assemblies that would call for a formal, binding referendum. The non-profit group "The South is My Country" aims to mobilize a million voters in 900 out of the region’s 1,191 cities.

Whiter and richer than the rest of Brazil, these southern states with cooler weather have long nursed separatist ambitions.


  1. Brazilian here.
    It will hardly do anything - both the 3 Southern States tried and São Paulo (richest and most populous state) also tried and nothing happened.
    As a Brazilian, I have to say this: Brazilians never achieve anything, nothing ever happens here because people are peak passive, it's literally the land of do-nothing.

    Now, a small context: These 3 Southern States are mainly Germanic and Italian (Paraná) in racial composition - they went to barren uncolonized land and created the best states of Brazil with cities on par with Europe/USA in HDI.
    São Paulo is Italian clay - before the Italians, it was just another Portuguese city like any other, with Coffee barons and slaves, but everything changed when the Italians colonized the state's interior and brought with them industrialization, which made São Paulo be the industrial power house of Brazil.
    Just to mention another one of these states, Espirito Santo also is Germanic and Italian clay, one of the best states in the country, with the best HDIs as well.

    Now, Mr. Unorthodoxy, what do you think of all that? Some ZeroHedge commenter said that this is Soros' Colour Revolutions 2.0 and is working to destroy powerful oppositions into fragmented weak states.

    1. Aren't those areas also where models such as Giselle hail from?

      Almost everyone is do nothing when it comes to independence. The Quebecois and Scottish are do nothing too, getting cold feet at the last moment. Spain has economic problems similar to Brazil and the national government attacked Catalonia, pushing it over the edge. This trend will take decades to play out and it will require much worse economic conditions, or state violence, to push people into independence.

      I don't think they are right about Soros. It is easier to control a large state such as Brazil than many small states. As Issac notes below, in the EU smaller states are preferred by the globalists because it increases the power of Brussels. But Brazil, for example, is not a threat to globalists, so breaking it up adds no value.

  2. "Some ZeroHedge commenter said that this is Soros' Colour Revolutions 2.0 and is working to destroy powerful oppositions into fragmented weak states."

    That's a talking point for Catalonia because they are pro-EU and, theoretically, many tiny European states would amplify the clout of the central European bureaucracy. I can't see the same thing being an issue in Brazil unless there is some push for South American political centralization.

    In general; however, I'm skeptical of this narrative. There are meaningful differences in state size, but unless a state is operating as a hegemonic empire like the US/Israel, Russia, China the relative size is not terribly important. Singapore is just as much under the suzerainty of the Chinese as Mongolia, despite the difference in size. Same with Monaco and France under the western hegemony.

    Overall I'd say secessionists are simply responding to the reality of the post-nuclear world. Conventional wars are now limited to being dog-piled by a global hegemony or fighting a street skirmish. Neither of these are something for which a large land mass and standing army are of much use. The only relevant weapons in the 21st century for most countries are special forces and ballistic missiles.




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